LVT 2005 MR MUNCH'S APPEAL

We have today heard that Mr Munch is appealing to the tribunal on the subject of the intercoms as no decision was made on this subject. The full appeal that was sent from the tribunal will be added at a later date.

We have now received the new service charge bills from Labyrinth Properties. Please note that those people that have been contributing voluntarily to the Legal Fund and offering support have saved EVERYONE in the region of £1,000 per property. It has been a joint effort between the VRSG  who have funded the legal team with regular payments and many fund raising events and Mr and Mrs Munch. Also our legal rep Linda Lockyer who has been invaluable as has our barrister, Tim Concannon. Without the dedication of the team and Mr and Munch this money would NOT have been returned to the service charge.

Rowner Estates through Labyrinth Properties are appealing against the LVT decision - we of course will be opposing this appeal and will continue with our legal team. 

THIS IS PART OF MR MUNCH'S APPLICATION THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED FROM THE LVT REGARDING HIS APPEAL:

We refer to our Statement of Case, which was prepared for the hearing of the 9th, 10th and 12th of May 2005.

§ 31 refers the tribunal to the costs to replace the Intercom system on the estate which was partly destroyed by fire in 2001. The Tribunal has been supplied with conclusive evidence at the hearing that:

 

• The intercom system was insured against damage by fire but no claim has ever been made.

• The fire was caused by negligence and the damage is recoverable from the managing agent which was responsible at the time. (Video evidence was shown to the Tribunal)

• The landlord was offered the evidence but refuses to act on it.

• It was established that the intercom system was only destroyed in Hillary Court and Lawrence Walk, where it was subjected to fire. On the other parts of the estate it is either working or can be repaired with minimal costs.

 

We concluded at the hearing that it is unreasonable to charge the tenants £32,000 for the replacement of an intercom system which could be repaired and in any event the damage should be recovered from the company who were responsible for causing the damage. (The company responsible is in fact the present managing agent Labyrinth Properties Limited.) The LVT has, in its decision, ignored the issue referred to above. No decision has been made on the reasonableness of the £32,000 in the 2005 budget for the replacement of the intercom system.

 

Thursday the 4th of August - please see the attached showing Labyrinth Properties application for leave to appeal the decision of the LVT of the 15th of July.

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LVT RESULT 2005

Below are some highlights from the LVT panels determination. The full copy is available from any committee member. We are at present in discussions with our legal team Tim Concannon our Barrister and Linda Lockyer our legal rep. Once the new bills are issued then we will be calling a meeting for people contributing to the legal fund. We will at that meeting discuss in depth our next step as recommended by our legal team. A vote will then be taken on the way forward. So please everyone contributing to the legal fund please try to attend the next meeting.

 

The applications

There were four applications before the tribunal relating to the estate known as "The Village" at Gosport ("the property") that were before the tribunal. Each of them was accompanied by an application (whether made at the time of the application or at the hearing) to the tribunal under section 20(C) of the Landlord & Tenant Act 1985 ("the Act") to limit the amount of the landlord's costs of the proceedings in question that may be regarded as relevant costs to be taken into account in determining the service charge in the relevant year. In the order in which the applications were made, they were:

a) an application by Rowner Estates Limited ("Rowner") under section 27A of the Act to determine service charges for 2004; b) an application by Mr & Mrs Munch under section 27A of the Act to determine service charges for the year 2003 and 2004; c) an application by Mr V Burt under Part II of the Landlord & Tenant Act 1987 ("the 1987 Act") for the appointment of a receiver and manager of the property; and d) an application by Rowner Estates Limited under section 27A of the Act to determine service charges to be charged in the year 2005.

 

This tribunal accepts that Re the change by the landlord from 13.7& to 5% Mr Concannon told us that it had been generally accepted over the years as appropriate. Since that time, Caseacre had entered into a Deed of Variation formalising the 5% figure as its contribution to the service charge costs for the commercial premises. Mr Munch said that the variation could only have been effected by agreement with all of the parties including the leaseholders, so that Caseacre should still pay 13.7% of the cost.

 

28. Mr Faulkner pointed out that the previous tribunal had not said that Caseacre must pay 13.7% of the service charge cost. It had merely said that the leaseholders should pay 86.3% of it. That was the limit of its jurisdiction, and it could not this is a correct statement of the position. On the face of the matter it would then fall for either Caseacre or Rowner to bear the balance to the extent that there may be any shortfall of service charge payment from the commercial lessees.

 

29. Mr Munch produced documents to show the structure of Caseacre and Rowner at the hearing. He said that Rowner, in particular, had been structured so that it may be difficult to enforce judgments against it, and that Mr Baker-Harber who was involved in the previous hearing in 2002 as well as in the court proceedings, and whom he believed still to be the person primarily interested as landlord, was no longer named as a director of either company.

 

This tribunal is not bound by the decision of the previous tribunal, but sees no reason to depart from its findings upon the question of the division of the service charge between the residential and the commercial parts of the property. The evidence before it is that this was the division adopted apparently without any material dispute, for many years, and that it is only in the last two or three years that any attempt has been made to depart from that position. There has been no evidence adduced to suggest why such a departure may have been justified. Mr Faulkner has not attempted to justify the change to the requirement for the commercial parts to pay 5% of the service charge only within the context of these proceedings. The tribunal has had the benefit of seeing the estate as a whole, and of satisfying itself from that inspection, as well as from the evidence before it, that the 86.3% - 13.7% split between residential and commercial appears to be reasonable and appropriate.

 

The shortfall of £142490.01

31. It is common ground between the parties that there is a shortfall of £142,490-01 in the 2003 accounts. It appears in the balance sheet as an asset under the heading "cash difference", and would seem to be made up of monies, contributed by service charge payers that are unaccounted for in that year. The issue between the parties is that of whether this shortfall should be investigated to establish what has happened to it, the chances of its recovery and, if any part may appear to be recoverable, what amounts should be expended on doing so. The accountants concerned have felt unable to certify the 2003 accounts in the usual way. Mr Munch says that, because this money is unaccounted for, the service charge should be reduced by that amount.

 

This is money that on the face of it should be available for the benefit of the service charge account but appears, for no reason that is presently known, to be missing from it. The first thing is to seek to discover what has happened to it and whether it, or any of it, is indeed available.

The tribunal has sought to balance the plain desirability of recovering this sum to the benefit of the service charge account against the practical possibility of identifying who may owe it and the possibility then of recovering the sum from them. The competing interests advanced before it were an estimate of £5000-00 from Messrs Menzies (formerly Messrs Wilfred Green), the accountants who have prepared the accounts to date, and of £2000 from Messrs Tenon. The estimate from Messrs Menzies (page 138 of the applicant's bundle relating to the 2005 budget) envisages a considerably more extensive initial investigation than does that from Messrs Tenon dated 12 March 2005 handed to the tribunal at the hearing.

In the circumstances the appropriate and reasonable course in the tribunal's judgement will be to authorise accountants (whoever may be chosen) to carry out an initial (it is likely to be no more than that) enquiry up to a cost of £2000 exclusive of VAT, and to report at that point upon the progress they have been able to make. They should at that time also report upon the likelihood or otherwise that further expenditure will be justified in terms of the likelihood of recovery of the whole or some part of the sum in question, and give an indication of the extent of the further investigations that will be required and of their cost, as well as an assessment of such prospects of recovery as they are at that time able to establish. This will enable the parties to consider the extent to which the service charge payers, in whose interest any further expenditure is to be incurred, is made, might reasonably underwrite the cost of further investigation

The account from Friars Secretarial Services Ltd.

Mr Munch challenged the inclusion in the service charge accounts for 2003 of a sum of £399-50 charged on 31st December 2002 by Friars Secretariat Ltd.. The account in question appears at page 162 of his bundle. The charge was expressed to be for work done in connection with New Horizons Management Company Limited. It included dealing with the annual return, with preparation and filing of forms of change of directors' particulars in June and December 2003, the preparation of various notices, and a meeting with "the Director" in December 2003 for signing various documents. Mr Faulkner said that the invoice was for company secretarial work up to the end of 2003 and that Jordan's would have charged £500 for the same work.

 

" The tribunal had the benefit of seeing the details of the various transactions relating to New Horizons, Caseacre and Rowner contained in Mr Munch's supplemental bundle. It is satisfied from that information that the work described in the Friars' account, other than that concerned with the 2002 annual return, had far more to do with the liquidation of New Horizons, and the setting up of the arrangements for Rowner and Caseacre. Apart from the annual return, it is difficult to see, in the light of the details of the transactions mentioned above, and of the background relating to an order made by the Portsmouth County Court that New Horizons should carry out works at the property at its expense, that the work was primarily for the benefit of leaseholders.

 

For reasons that are not explained, the Annual Return was rejected twice. The tribunal accepted that one rejection may sometimes occur prior to acceptance, but would not have expected that it should have been rejected twice before acceptance when it had been professionally prepared. The tribunal is of the view that the work related to the annual return should have had a value of not more than £100 plus VAT. The amount to be included in the 2003 service charge account for the work of Friars Secretariat Limited is thus to be limited to £ 117-50 inclusive of VAT.

The evidence in connection with the closure of the lifts was not, in its essence, contradicted. So far as the lifts adjacent to Hillary Court are concerned there was a substantial fire in the staircase, fuelled by rubbish that had not been properly removed, in March 2001. The lifts adjacent to Livingstone Court were switched off in March 2002 because the insurance cover had lapsed. Since then they have been damaged to the extent that it would cost (said Mr Munch) £54000 to repair them. It was understood that Mr Baker-Harber had lodged an insurance claim in respect of the lifts adjacent to Hillary Court in 2001 or in early 2002 as appeared from a letter from him to Mr Munch dated 9 January 2002 at page 210 of Mr Munch's bundle. No-one, including Mr Faulkner, had any knowledge of the outcome, if any, of that claim, and nothing more had been heard by Mr Munch from Mr Baker-Harber on the subject.

The letter and bill for the tenancy agreement. (187-8). Mr Faulkner said that this account was for work undertaken by solicitors in 2003 for preparing the short term tenancy agreement by Caseacre to Rowner of the reversion in respect of residential parts of the unit. He says that the work was for the benefit of the leaseholders because an entity had to take the place of New Horizons in the management of the estate following the liquidation of New Horizons. The form itself appears to be a rather hasty adaptation of a form of tenancy agreement usually used in creating assured tenancies, and the letter accompanying the bill in 2004 is dated just a year later than the agreement, and might be regarded as somewhat oddly worded. In this case the tribunal felt able to take the practical view, having the benefit of Mr Munch's evidence about the nature of the structure of Rowner, that the arrangements appeared to be potentially far more appropriate to the benefit of the ultimate beneficiary of the chain of companies now set up to hold the reversions than they were to the benefit of the leaseholders, and it would be quite unreasonable to expect the latter to pay for them. They did not qualify as management of the estate but rather as management for the convenience of those who ultimately benefit from any income derived from Caseacre. That being so, the total sum of £293-75 inclusive of VAT is disallowed.

It was apparent during the tribunal's inspection that some gardening and some exterior painting had been done very shortly before it took place. Both paint and earth, as the case may be, were very fresh. It was equally apparent that the estate was then quite tidy, but that the nature of grass-cutting that had been done, and the almost unusually tidy nature of some of the areas of the estate where clutter would normally accumulate in a short time, indicated that quite a lot of work had been done shortly before its visit. The witness statements attached to the Respondent's reply bore testimony to leaseholders' dissatisfaction with this element of the work. The tribunal had to do the best it could with what was before it.

There was no indication of any sort available to it to suggest what would have been a reasonable cost for what was done to the standard to which it was done. Using its collective knowledge and experience of the likely cost of doing the works required by the lease in this connection to a reasonable standard, it concluded that it would be appropriate to allow a sum of £70,000 instead of £86224.78 referred to in the accounts for the costs of landscaping and cleaning as a reasonable payment for what seems likely, on the evidence before it, to have been provided.

The matter of the patch repairs to the roof is not of itself a matter requiring a decision from the tribunal. Mr Faulkner has conceded that where the damage has arisen at points where the aerials have been installed following that work then it is for the companies concerned and not for the leaseholders to pay its cost.

The matter of landscaping and cleaning is dealt with at paragraphs 66 ' and 67 above. The figure to be substituted for 2005 is £72100, being £70000 determined in respect of 2004 plus 3% for inflation. The tribunal is satisfied from its own knowledge and experience that it will be possible to replace the present poor and expensive standard of work with a satisfactory standard at that price.

There was considerable discussion at the hearing about the rate of interest that would be applicable to a loan made by the landlord to fund the shortfall in the service charge. Mr Faulkner explained that the service charge sums presently being collected were just about enough to pay the insurance premiums. The tribunal observes that the leases do not appear to make the payment of the service charge a precondition of the performance of the obligations expressed to be by the company towards the leaseholders. It notes too the provision in clause 3(b) of the leases that in the event of the company failing to comply with its obligations then the landlord will perform them.

Whilst it accepts that there may be more to the matter than it has heard, the tribunal is, on the information that it has, not at all clear why Rowner had to be introduced into the system. On the basis of what Mr Concannon said of the law upon the matter, both with regard to the lease and with regard to the operation of sections 62 and 141 and 142 of the Law of Property Act 1925 and which the tribunal entirely accepts, there appears to be no doubt at all that whatever intervening arrangements have been made Caseacre remains ultimately liable for the performance of those obligations.

77. Mr Faulkner says that no bank would countenance such a loan and that accordingly his clients can almost specify their own rate. The tribunal does not accept that. First of all it is not sure that a loan is necessary if indeed Caseacre ought to underwrite the cost of the works. It does, however, accept that it is hardly likely to do so without powerful compulsion unless it sees a reasonable prospect that the service charges will be paid as they should be so that it is not left out of pocket for any greater period than is necessary. In any event, on that analysis any loan should be made to Caseacre rather than to Rowner, or if made to Rowner should at least be underwritten by Caseacre. As indicated at paragraph 27 above, it does indeed appear from what Mr Munch said that Rowner, at least, has been structured in such a way that it may be difficult to enforce judgements against it, so that it is in turn unlikely that any Bank would have wanted to lend to it. Mr Concannon argues that because Caseacre has property this would be a secured loan to which a rate of 5% or 5.25% may be applicable.

78. If, against that background, a loan is necessary at all then the tribunal can see no reason why it should not be at a proper commercial rate of interest applicable to the risk involved. Caseacre is ultimately responsible for seeing the work done and may be expected to underwrite the loan if it does not actually take it. The tribunal has been shown that Caseacre owns the freehold, including that of the "other parts of the estate", over which the leaseholders seem (on the papers before the tribunal, although it does not have a fully coloured copy of the lease plans, which may show a different position) to have rather limited rights . It has been told that it has it in mind to develop some parts of that land for residential purposes. In short it may perfectly well be able to negotiate a loan on suitable commercial terms. There would no doubt be some risk attendant upon delays in paying service charge that have historically arisen. The comparable enquiries produced by Mr Faulkner envisaged a loan to New Horizons only. That would have been a quite different lending proposition, and in the light of subsequent events it is not surprising that banks were unwilling to undertake it.

79. Taking all of that into account, and if a loan is really required to carry out the scheme of the leases, the tribunal determined that a rate of 4% over base rate from time to time in force would be reasonable. That also happens to be the rate of interest under the lease payable in respect of arrears pursuant to paragraph 14 of Schedule 5 (page 106 in Mr Munch's trial bundle). More particularly it takes into account the fact, a part of the tribunal's collective knowledge and experience that as an expert tribunal it is entitled to take into account, that a bank when fixing a rate of interest would look not only at security but also at the cash flow from which the money was to be repaid. The arrears of service charge payments at The Village do not encourage a rosy view of that cash flow. The opposing arguments of Mr Faulkner and of Mr Concannon seek to emphasise the cash flow aspect on the one hand and the security aspect on the other, and the fact is that the two interact.

The 'landlord' wanted to charge us 8% above the base rate.

The application to appoint a manager

Mr. Burt made application to the tribunal on 29th September 2004 pursuant to sections 21-24 of the Landlord & Tenant Act 1987 for the appointment of Mr Martyn Brown of Messrs Daniells Harrison of Fareham to be the receiver and manager of The Village. A notice under section 22 of that Act was served on the landlord on the same day, but no issue was taken before the tribunal as to whether the notice did or did not precede the application.

The tribunal is satisfied that there are grounds upon which it could make an appointment. The failure to maintain the lifts is a plain breach of the landlord's obligations in the lease. It has continued for several years past and still continues. It is clear from inspection that the exterior decorating covenants have not been strictly fulfilled, and Mr Faulkner does not challenge the point. Similarly the lack of attention to the stairwell damaged by the fire was also apparent from the inspection. The history of the estate over the last few years exhibits an almost complete breakdown of relations between the landlord and the leaseholders, and that feature alone would in the tribunal's judgement be sufficient to render it just and convenient to appoint a receiver and manager. However his firm may seek against difficulties to try to manage the estate Mr Faulkner's firm was appointed by Mr Baker-Harber, and are still appointed by Caseacre and Rowner. They are plainly, from all that the leaseholders said before us, seen as being 'landlord's men'.

Whilst Mr Brown was clear that he would seek to deal with the factions on the estate by meeting both of them equally, the tribunal was satisfied from his evidence that he had not thought through either what he was being asked to do nor for whom he was being asked to do it before allowing his name to be put forward for this position. It was left with the clear impression, which it gained in part from Mr Brown's uncertainty, and in part from Mr Burt's wish that the leaseholders wanted 'to choose their own destiny', that Mr Brown expected, and was expected by those who nominated him, to represent their interests. Whilst no doubt Mr Brown is capable of managing the estate, the tribunal is in no doubt having heard all the parties that he would be seen as the 'VRA's man'. That would not be a great advance on the present position of Mr Faulkner's firm. It considers that it would not be just and convenient in those circumstances to appoint him because he could not be seen to have the degree of clear independence that would be essential if a receiver and manager is to be able to take decisions that are not only independent of the different factions on the estate and of the landlord, but that are seen to be so.

93. For these reasons the tribunal is not prepared to appoint Mr Brown. It is however prepared to make an appointment of someone well experienced in estate management of this sort who could command the degree of independence of all parties that would allow him or her to tackle the problems in The Village, and to provide an opportunity for the estate at last to advance from its present unfortunate position. The need for independence may perhaps even indicate a desirability to look for an appointee outside of the immediate Portsmouth/Gosport /Fareham area, although that is not essentially a matter at present for the tribunal.

The tribunal is however prepared to adjourn the application upon the basis that it now for Mr Burt to nominate another person, if he so wishes, who is thought to meet these criteria. He may do so within three months after the date of the issue of these reasons by writing to the tribunal with the details of such a nominee, and simultaneously sending a copy of that letter to the other parties. If he does so then the tribunal will reconvene to consider whether or not to appoint that person, but if he does not then the application will at that date become finally determined upon the simple basis that the tribunal was not prepared to appoint Mr Brown. The tribunal will not in any case consider any further nominations beyond the one nomination provided for in this paragraph because of the need, so far as reasonably possible against the background of this application, to provide certainty in the continued management of The Village.

 

 

LEASEHOLD VALUATION TRIBUNAL 2004/2005 UPDATE TRIBUNAL PANEL

Presided over by Mr Long, Mrs Newman and Mr Preston.

 

LABYRINTH PROPERTIES represented by Nick Faulkner and supported by Mr George Fernie, Mrs Veronica Jessop, Ms Kim McDonald and Mrs Karen Killeen, Estate Manager.

 

Mr Munch

 

VRA/VRSG represented by Mr Vic Burt - VRA Chairman, Mr Andrew Dodd's - VRA Vice Chairman, Mrs Sandra Burt, Mrs Joan Hussey, Tim Concannon - VRA Barrister, Linda Lockyer - VRA Legal Rep, Mrs Maggie Hammond - VRA Secretary and other VRA members.

 

Mr Munch’s case was heard first on Monday about the reasonableness of the 2003 service charge. Mr Munch queried many aspects of the 2003 service charge including mobile phone costs to a premium number on 2 occasions and an international call.

 

Mr Munch asked the panel to make a judgement on the divide of the global charge as Caseacre/Rowner Estates are only paying 5% of the service charge which means the residents are paying the rest. The divide as instructed by the 2002 LVT should be 13.7% to Caseacre/Rowner Estates.

 

Also discussed was the missing £142,000 and who was to pay for this and who was to pay for the accountant to look into the missing money. (This was also part of the VRA case).

 

Ownership of the roofs and who pays for the roof to be fixed was discussed and the fact that we were paying rent on both unit 8 and 12 for the estate office and the redecoration. This is only a small part of Mr Munch’s application and until the official determination we can say nothing definite.

 

Our defence of the 2004/2005 reasonableness of the service charges were discussed at all our meetings and the full case can be obtained from a committee member.

 

On the case of our application for new manager Martyn Brown was interviewed by the panel and Nick Faulkner. The panel then agreed to watch 3 videos in connection with this matter. Firstly was Mr Munches video of the rubbish piling up at the base of the lifts in 2001 then showing the fire a few days later. The matter of the insurance that shows no sign of being put into the service charge is also a matter of some concern. The 2nd video was filmed by us last month at a request by Channel 4 Television of the estate. Channel 4 rushed this video to us by special courier to enable us to use it as evidence. It clearly shows exactly how the estate looked a few weeks ago. Labyrinth Properties Limited claim that the painting etc done just prior to the LVT walkabout was how the estate always looks. The 3rd video was filmed by us 2 days after the LVT walkabout.

 

We have done our best to represent the views of us all in the VRA/VRSG and now we must await the determination, which we believe will be a couple of weeks. A meeting will be held at the beginning of June to take donations for the legal fund and a full account of the LVT will be given. We may even have the determination. Everyone will be informed of dates as soon as the hall is booked.

 

VRA/VRSG  LVT

MAY 2005 IN RESPONSE TO QUESTIONS WE HAVE BEEN ASKED.

May 18, 2005

May we correct the figures given on the RVRA website, for Martyn Brown of Daniels and Harrison. Below are the correct figures supplied by Martyn Brown himself and verified by our legal team. Consideration is being given as to the next step taken re the misrepresentation of these figures. A copy of them is being sent to the LVT Chairman Mr Long.

£150 per unit

£35 per unit this is a one off payment. This is due to the current mess of the estate and service charges. This is to enable initial headway to be made, before normal management services can commence. It would be a one off fee and therefore our fees would be well below current levels thereafter.

The commission charged on major works, currently this is defined as over £75,000, stands at about 9-10% so for a £90,000 contract we pay 9-10% on £15,00.. When Daniels and Harrison need to employ the services of a building surveyor they would of course where possible use a surveyor from within the firm.

On-site manager would be discussed with residents as it was felt strongly by many residents that the £17,000 charge for the wages of the estate manager and the rent and upkeep of the office was not worth it. Martyn Brown would discuss this if he is appointed as manager and he would hold a surgery on the estate and hold monthly meetings. A 24 hour help and emergency line would be available and during office hours would be answered personally.  The cost of an additional person would realistically be around £4,000 without an on site manager. A huge saving in itself. Martyn feels that it is of the utmost importance to hold monthly meetings and to work together with us the residents.

 Martyn Brown was also very honest in identifying that he does not know how he will deal with all the issues here on the estate yet as he has not yet been able to study in detail the planning actions and works. This includes identifying the main priorities. But as yet Martyn has not been appointed

Nick Faulkner continually refused to recognize Vic Burt as the VRA Chairman, although as our barrister did point out to him before the case started, that he (Nick Faulkner) had begun this action and served the papers on Vic Burt as the VRA. Nick Faulkner insisted that Vic Burt was the Vice Chairman. Despite the fact that an AGM was held early in 2004 and an official election took place.

Labyrinth continually stated that we did not have the % required to represent the Village in an application for a new manager. He thought we had 20% Mr Long the Chairman for the LVT told him clearly " That it did not matter how many % we were, there was clearly something wrong on the estate. and it should be rectified."

Our barrister questioned Nick Faulkner on his appointment as secretary to Michael Baker-Harber company Caseacre. Mr Long also asked NF how this appointment came about, NF said that he did not recall. Then when he did remember he said  it was common practice.

We have had monies returned to the 2003 service charge that were mistakenly charged to the account. Nick Faulkner apologized for the errors.

Nick Faulkner also stated that in the 66 signatures that were sent in in support of our application for a new manager some 2 were undesirables (according to law voting rights are only withheld from those serving at Her Majesty's pleasure!), although at the hearing it was 3. Unfortunately when we collected the signatures we did not ask people their backgrounds etc. We did not consider it to be relevant to whether they were happy or not with the present management company.

The loan in the 2005 budget does not exist at the moment. When Nick Faulkner was questioned about this he could not say where the money was coming from whether it was personal money of Caseacre/Rowner Estates or a loan secured on other property of theirs or the estate. Nick Faulkner had not questioned this at all, but he said that his client was entitled to recover interest. Tim Concannon (our Barrister} pointed out that Schedule 9 of the lease only provides for them to charge the rate being charged to them for interest. If this money came from personal finances then it would be a matter of trust – and not to inflate the interest to make money. 8% above base equates of 12.75% which is day light robbery.

No effort has been made to recover the service charge owed by Caseacre. Yet we have 2 'historical loans' from them for which there does not appear to be any information available. Caseacre also is prepared to lend the service charge money at a rate well above the bank rate. We have asked the LVT for a ruling on this

The insurance for the lifts that were burnt in 2001; Labyrinth Properties Limited filled out the initial insurance claim forms, but then resigned. In a letter from Michael Baker-Harber tells us not too worry, he will personally take this over. We find no mention of this in the accounts.

The missing money that Labyrinth Properties Limited want to charge us around £40,000 to investigate. We have a quote found for us by Linda Lockyer for a company willing to do an investigation for £2,000. We again have asked the LVT for a ruling on this. We may never be able to find where this money went. But we do not want to repay money already paid into the service charge. Service charge money is paid on trust. Therefore we have to trust the management company.

The roofs are another area of our dispute and we have asked the LVT for a ruling on these. As the masts  are on the roofs that have bad leaks.

The roof – it is not the lease that is unclear it is actually the way the freehold of the estate has been split between Rowner Estates and Caseacre. When Focushawk transferred the total estate to Caseacre (Michael Baker-Harber is the money behind Caseacre according to the Land Registry records) he attempted to keep the profitable bit for himself being the telecommunication masts. However under the Law of Property Act 1925 (S142) you cannot have flying freeholds and that is what has in effect happened. Rowner Estates title excludes the telecommunication masts from their title. However the masts are attached to the roof which is on Rowner Estates title and it is this roof that has been damaged. The freeholder of the roof (Rowner Estates or Focushawk before them) agreed for the masts and therefore are liable to repair the damage at their expense as they have allowed and agreed for the damage. This is a point that the LVT are going to be ruling on and an area of the trial that Tim went into Property Law in detail in order to assist the LVT.

Nick Faulkner and his supporters denied that the painting and huge clean up took place in the week preceding the LVT walk around. Channel 4 television who had a video film of the estate shot only weeks ago sent us a copy by courier. The LVT watched this. It quite clearly showed just how the estate looked. Mr Long also said that they could smell fresh paint as they walked about, but of course could not know when this had actually taken place. We also have a diary of the works and when they did take place.

The missing £142,000; both Mr Munch and Tim have argued that this should not be included as an “asset” as the Landlord cannot account for this amount one way or another, if they cannot account for it the Landlord should remove it from the accounts until they can. Mr Long said that if it is excluded from the accounts then this would add to the amount that the Landlord would have to put into the service charge to make up the shortfall. Tim agreed that this would be the case and again he requested the LVT take a decision on this. It is down to the landlord to prove the whereabouts of the £142,000.

On closing Mr Long said that the two opposing groups should get together as the estate should come first. We do agree and we will be suggesting in writing that the 4 RVRA members put their names forward for election on to the committee at the next VRA AGM. We will also be asking that the code of conduct in the constitution be adhered to.

We do not support Labyrinth Properties Limited we do not believe that they have treated us justly and fairly. The workmanship is shoddy and we are not treated with the respect  and politeness in any dealings that we try to have with them

Mr George Fernie has a grandson and son in law employed on the estate by security.

Mrs Veronica Jessop, Mr George Fernies daughter  has a son and husband employed by security.

Ms Kim McDonald is employed by security.

Therefore it is in their best interests to keep Labyrinth Properties Limited as estate managers.

Labyrinth Properties Limited complain frequently about money not paid into the service charge, but they have made no attempt to reclaim money from Caseacre and have charged to the service items that should have been charged to Caseacre.

We have simply answered some of the questions we have been asked in this statement

We are awaiting the full details from the LVT which we will receive in due course.

We are all in the hands of the LVT panel and we pray that at last we will receive justice on this estate.

Application for Reasonableness of the Service Charge for 2005

(And Fees for finding the missing money)

Having had the chance to read through the mountain of paper work that is the application for reasonableness of the service charge for 2005, the following may be of interest to you:

We find a letter from the accountant charged with finding the missing £142,000.00 from the first half of 2003.

The reasons given for the 'cash difference' as it is also known, could be one of the following :-

  1. Cash at Bank – Missing bank statements from first half 2004.

  2. Debtors – Incorrect figures from first half 2003 handed over.
  3. Monies expended – No receipts from first half 2003.
  4. Misappropriation – further investigation required.

They go on to suggest a full survey of all residents from that time period to establish arrears and amounts paid in cash.

They also need to ascertain expenditure for which there are no vouchers.

The accountants advised labyrinth that the total cost of finding the missing £142,000.00 would be £34,854.00.

 

The accountants also said that despite spending a lot of time searching it may never come to light where the missing money has gone.

 

…this takes the final bill to some £40,953.00 – and this appears top be the ONLY quote!

 

One other question we ask ourselves is why hasn't this cash difference been mentioned earlier.

 

In the early part of 2004 the VRA and our legal rep Linda attended a meeting with Nick Faulkner at labyrinths offices in Fareham, to discuss the accounts. At no time during the meeting did Nick Faulkner mention the missing money - in fact he told us “virtually everyone had paid their service charge for 2003”. It was only at Karen's meeting in August 2004 did the subject arise, and again at the LVT pre-trial did the full amount of missing money become apparent.

 

Intercom and security doors.

The new proposed intercom system seems to be another unnecessary expensive exercise, when repairs to the old system would be the cheaper option. One must concede that some areas are beyond repair due to the recent fires, but surely that should have been covered by the insurance.

 

There are other areas where the broken windows in the panels adjacent to the door opening mechanism have been allowed to remain in a state of disrepair for many months, allowing vandals to pull the exposed wires from the door opening mechanism, thus rendering the door opening system inoperative.

In most cases replacement of this wire would seem to be the easiest and cheapest option. After all the broken windows had temporary repairs made using Perspex and silicone sealant.  Surely  it would be better to now replace the temporary repairs with proper safety glass and rubber seals at the same time as the door opening mechanism are repaired. Incidentally the new system would have to be wired up to the door opening mechanism anyway.

The proposed intercom system relies upon the home owner having a telephone line or mobile phone. Your caller taps in your house number where your phone rings.

If your phone is engaged (internet or conversation) then the caller will hear an engaged tone indicating that you are home and will have to redial the house number until you have finished your call.

Your caller may have to wait a while while you finish your Internet session or conversion. And in the event you only have a mobile phone you may not be home when a caller arrives.

One door is missing in Hillary Court, Karen has said that the missing door in Hillary will not be replaced and therefore spending a fortune on intercoms systems and security doors is pointless all the time one door remains missing.

APPLICATION FOR NEW MANAGER 2005 LVT

If you are unhappy with our present management company and would like to support our application to the LVT for a new manager. Please contact Mrs Jill Rhodes  and have your name added to the application.

Case number 0012 application for a new manager

Residential Property Tribunal Service

Southern Rent Assessment Panel

1st Floor

Midland House

1 Market Avenue

Chichester

West Sussex

PO19 1JU

 

TELEPHONE 0845 1002617

REF CHI/24UF/LAM/2004/0012.

 

OFFICIAL LVT RECORD OF PRE-LVT HELD ON 26 NOVEMBER

The following is the official record of the pre-LVT heard on the above date.

If you would like to see the the appointment of a new manager please phone Jill Rhodes at the Southern Rent assessment panel, her phone number is 0845 1002617 and have your name added to the list EVEN IF YOU THINK YOU ARE ALREADY ON THE LIST PHONE TO CHECK!!

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OFFICIAL LVT RECORD OF PRE-LVT HELD ON 14 SEPTEMBER

14TH SEPTEMBER 2004 - LVT PRELIMINARY HEARING

The prelim of our LVT defence against Rowner Estates was held today. The Chairman was Mr Long and his opening statement was that the whole affair seemed to be a shambles.
Mr Long also picked up on £142,490.01 that appeared to be missing and repeatedly asked where this money was.  Nick Faulkner was unable to answer but said it could be VMC2. And that that would need to be investigated.

Mr Long said that a decision had to be made who will make up the shortfall of the missing money - The Landlord or us and when it was decided  we MUST ensure that it went into the right place. He then went on to say that it may be a long time before the tribunal came to a decision as it was so complicated.

 

Mr Long agreed that as Mr and Munches court case was next month we should defer the hearing but Nick Faulkner did not agree and wanted it fast tracked. But Mr Long said it was to complicated for that.

 

Nick Faulkner stated that New Horizons Management had no bank accounts for the past 15 years. This should be looked into.

 

Linda our legal rep said that we were applying for a manager of our own. Mr Long said that the management fees could possibly be SLIGHTLY higher than at present but at the moment we are paying Labyrinth and Karen Killeen's wages. Also the management company that we met with some months ago told us that they didn't charge such high fees as Labyrinth and that they would put in writing that they would return 50% of  the commission from the insurance. Nor would they charge us  the 20% commission on any agreed works to carried out for that year. So it is very possible that we will be paying less, EITHER WAY at least we will have the works done that we pay for and the knowledge of where our money has been spent.

 

Mr Long also indicated that the divide between the insurance money  and service charge paid by the residents and Caseacre (MBH) would be looked into as at present residents are paying 95% and Caseacre 5%. Considering that Caseacre own the shops and other large areas that we pay to maintain this seems to be in important for the tribunal to examine this.
Mr Long asked Nick Faulkner why Caseacre hadn't been chased for the money owing and also the residents who hadn't paid .Nick replied that this was in hand.
 
THE PRELIM WAS ADJOURNED  FOR FOUR WEEKS AND ANOTHER PRELIM WILL BE HELD THEN.
 
AN EGM WILL BE CALLED IN APPROXIMATELY  FOUR WEEKS TIME. TO DISCUSS THE OUTCOMES OF  THE PRELIMS AND COURT CASE.
 
IT IS IMPORTANT THAT YOU ATTEND AS THIS IS ALL OUR FUTURES AND WE NEED TO ENSURE THAT MONEY WE PAY INTO THE SERVICE CHARGE IS BEING SPENT ON THE ESTATE.